
Originally Posted by
grobblewobble
I take this to mean that you can still dip 19 rings in one potion of exchange, but each one gets exchanged individually? If that is what has been changed, it does not stop ring wish engines from working. On average, you would get the same number of new wishes per potion of exchange. To be honest, it just makes the engine easier to start and maintain once you have enough rings because there is very little risk of getting no new wishes this way.
Sorry if I misunderstand.
Edit: ok, I stand corrected.. someone pointed out to me you would need a really large amount of rings (some 400), which makes it harder for sure.
The main difference is that you don't get a stack of rings to re-dip. If you dip 19 brass rings, you might get lucky and get one RoDS. More generally, you're likely to get, say, 2 rings of acid resistance, a ring of ice, three rings of fire resistance, two rings of the fish, etc. Now, unless you have heaps of rings to begin with, the chances of having a reasonable stack for re-dipping is much lower. And then, to set up a full wish engine, you'd need a way to effectively produce somewhere in the vicinity of 19 RoDSes by the various dips during a set.
Think of it this way - making it exchange each ring separately makes it harder to set up a wish engine, but easier to get a single wish - which is precisely what the main aim is with all of this.
That said, supposedly there's a 4% chance that a ring being exchanged becomes a RoDS if done at the appropriate danger level. If that's true, then there's a better than 50% chance that dipping 19 rings will produce at least one RoDS. That may be a little too high... although it's not going to be as easy to obtain 19 rings of the same type as it used to be, now that pickpocketing doesn't work on summoned/bred creatures (and I assume gremlins produced by water multiplication, etc).
The Wish Engine doesn't need to be made completely impossible, just highly impractical (in 1.1.1, it was merely impractical, mostly just requiring time to set up).